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> <channel><title>Comments on: Elizabeth Alexander&#8217;s Inaugural Poem</title> <atom:link href="http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/</link> <description>Lancaster County, PA and the Cultural Creatives</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:53:02 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Maria</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link> <dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-124</guid> <description>It was a &quot;nice&quot; poem, yet I thought it was very weak for such an occasion
very weak....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a &#8220;nice&#8221; poem, yet I thought it was very weak for such an occasion<br
/> very weak&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mary</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link> <dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:37:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-123</guid> <description>As far as the message goes, it is quite clear: she is trying to tell us that in our daily life we fail to see the epic dimensions of simple things, such as “a woman and her son wait for the bus” etc. The epic implications are conveyed by the fact that we all have various backgrounds, and we sort of owe this glorious day to our diverse ancestors, who made this day possible.(By the way, I see no “creative necessity” to stop this listing of scenes from everyday life at that particular point. It could have continued for pages and pages: a girl is smoking in the doorway; a mother is peeling potatoes; the guy upstairs is moving furniture, etc.)And here is my problem with the poem. The idea could have been presented beautifully. But was it? The author calls Ms. Alexander&#039;s creation &quot;verse&quot;, but could somebody PLEASE show me where the versification is? I am an immigrant who studied the versification styles of Shakespeare, Byron, Burns, Shelly and many others, but all I can see in Ms. Alexander’s work is lack of skill.If she is teaching style and poetry at Yale, I am scared for Yale.P.S. “When brown can stick around … etc.” – has nothing to do with poetry, imagery or style. It is simply primitive and vulgar, worse than “call 1-800-get-a-wife, we’ll keep you happy all your life.”Could someone explain?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the message goes, it is quite clear: she is trying to tell us that in our daily life we fail to see the epic dimensions of simple things, such as “a woman and her son wait for the bus” etc. The epic implications are conveyed by the fact that we all have various backgrounds, and we sort of owe this glorious day to our diverse ancestors, who made this day possible.</p><p>(By the way, I see no “creative necessity” to stop this listing of scenes from everyday life at that particular point. It could have continued for pages and pages: a girl is smoking in the doorway; a mother is peeling potatoes; the guy upstairs is moving furniture, etc.)</p><p>And here is my problem with the poem. The idea could have been presented beautifully. But was it? The author calls Ms. Alexander&#8217;s creation &#8220;verse&#8221;, but could somebody PLEASE show me where the versification is? I am an immigrant who studied the versification styles of Shakespeare, Byron, Burns, Shelly and many others, but all I can see in Ms. Alexander’s work is lack of skill.</p><p>If she is teaching style and poetry at Yale, I am scared for Yale.</p><p>P.S. “When brown can stick around … etc.” – has nothing to do with poetry, imagery or style. It is simply primitive and vulgar, worse than “call 1-800-get-a-wife, we’ll keep you happy all your life.”</p><p>Could someone explain?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mayimuna</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link> <dc:creator>mayimuna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:21:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-122</guid> <description>have you seen this poem of rejoicing on youtube?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvZ1AaZOnQo</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you seen this poem of rejoicing on youtube?<br
/> <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvZ1AaZOnQo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvZ1AaZOnQo</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anotefrommel</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link> <dc:creator>anotefrommel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:13:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-121</guid> <description>I&#039;d like to see practictioners (how dry, not pretty as the simple title of poet) of poetry take on the challenge of writing the inaugural poem understanding that:1) they have the benefit/misfortune of not having been selected as the Inaugural poet for Barack Obama
2) they do not have to deliver it to 1,000s upon 1,000s of people who do not even read poetry, let alone understand what constitutes a good poem
3) they do not have to deliver it to people living in a time where reading is no longer our greatest pasttime because of our dwindling attention spans
4) they have examples, however few, of what an inaugural poem has been, is and should be because it has been attempted by a few poets prior.
5) they do not have 2 months or less (November 4, 2008 and January 20, 2009) to create, revise and revise some more, and examine the nuances, consider the approach, consider the delivery, etc.Let&#039;s attempt to write an Inaugural poem about this enormous time in our history. I&#039;ll do the same. Then come back and post comments about your poem&#039;s efficacy. I&#039;m sure many poems will be and have been written about this time, but none under the pressure and the large critical body that is America.Klotz, I (personally) appreciate your interest to consider the makings of this poem, the effective lines, stanzas, images and the forum. I&#039;ve also read your explication of &quot;Praise Song for the Day.&quot; Pretty darn extensive and even objective at times. This dialogue is great :)Kudos!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see practictioners (how dry, not pretty as the simple title of poet) of poetry take on the challenge of writing the inaugural poem understanding that:</p><p>1) they have the benefit/misfortune of not having been selected as the Inaugural poet for Barack Obama<br
/> 2) they do not have to deliver it to 1,000s upon 1,000s of people who do not even read poetry, let alone understand what constitutes a good poem<br
/> 3) they do not have to deliver it to people living in a time where reading is no longer our greatest pasttime because of our dwindling attention spans<br
/> 4) they have examples, however few, of what an inaugural poem has been, is and should be because it has been attempted by a few poets prior.<br
/> 5) they do not have 2 months or less (November 4, 2008 and January 20, 2009) to create, revise and revise some more, and examine the nuances, consider the approach, consider the delivery, etc.</p><p>Let&#8217;s attempt to write an Inaugural poem about this enormous time in our history. I&#8217;ll do the same. Then come back and post comments about your poem&#8217;s efficacy. I&#8217;m sure many poems will be and have been written about this time, but none under the pressure and the large critical body that is America.</p><p>Klotz, I (personally) appreciate your interest to consider the makings of this poem, the effective lines, stanzas, images and the forum. I&#8217;ve also read your explication of &#8220;Praise Song for the Day.&#8221; Pretty darn extensive and even objective at times. This dialogue is great <img
src='http://cdn.danielklotz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Kudos!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scott</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link> <dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-120</guid> <description>As a practicing poet, I maintain that the poem was indeed bad and that the delivery was worse.  Cliche, pat, and ineffectual.It is not impossible to write a poem that is generally reconized as good and lives up to the moment, even on a day like that one.  I couldn&#039;t help feeling as if she believed it was impossible to do so, so she didn&#039;t even try.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a practicing poet, I maintain that the poem was indeed bad and that the delivery was worse.  Cliche, pat, and ineffectual.</p><p>It is not impossible to write a poem that is generally reconized as good and lives up to the moment, even on a day like that one.  I couldn&#8217;t help feeling as if she believed it was impossible to do so, so she didn&#8217;t even try.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Carla Kimball</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link> <dc:creator>Carla Kimball</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:39:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-119</guid> <description>Hi Daniel, I&#039;m moving a conversation you and I began on my blog to your blog as it looks like a very rich conversation.I&#039;m not a poet and don&#039;t know much about good or bad poetry either.  I personally liked the rhythm and pacing of her reading.  While her words were mundane, for me it was in the silences between the words that the poem had meaning.  Much like the last comment, we each filled in our own stories. I think it was the silences, the negative space, that made the poem feel long to some.  For me, they added to the richness.Carla (my blog, which is only a day old, is speakingpresence.wordpress.com)
www.riverways.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel, I&#8217;m moving a conversation you and I began on my blog to your blog as it looks like a very rich conversation.</p><p>I&#8217;m not a poet and don&#8217;t know much about good or bad poetry either.  I personally liked the rhythm and pacing of her reading.  While her words were mundane, for me it was in the silences between the words that the poem had meaning.  Much like the last comment, we each filled in our own stories. I think it was the silences, the negative space, that made the poem feel long to some.  For me, they added to the richness.</p><p>Carla (my blog, which is only a day old, is speakingpresence.wordpress.com)<br
/> <a
href="http://www.riverways.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.riverways.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: vastlyglad2Bhere</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link> <dc:creator>vastlyglad2Bhere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:06:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-118</guid> <description>Oh I *liked* the poem.  It did seem longer to hear than to see on paper--I think because it was read slowly and very deliberately, and we didn&#039;t know when it would end (only infinity to measure it against.)
The boy and mother waiting for the bus--blunt, no explanation--
but no father, not on their way to the beach or amusement, probably she to her job, first a stop at his daycare--whatever whoever can be found to keep her little boy during the hours she has to work.
Have you ever hand-lettered a sign?  The last letters skinny!--ha ha that&#039;s the &quot;figuring it out at kitchen tables&quot; .
I opened my mutual fund statement 2 hours ago, before this surfing, and I have $4000.00 less than same time last year.  So &quot;banal&quot; spoke to me, I understand that I am building something I will then &quot;keep clean and work inside of&quot;.
Please understand I am no understander of what poetry should be!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I *liked* the poem.  It did seem longer to hear than to see on paper&#8211;I think because it was read slowly and very deliberately, and we didn&#8217;t know when it would end (only infinity to measure it against.)<br
/> The boy and mother waiting for the bus&#8211;blunt, no explanation&#8211;<br
/> but no father, not on their way to the beach or amusement, probably she to her job, first a stop at his daycare&#8211;whatever whoever can be found to keep her little boy during the hours she has to work.<br
/> Have you ever hand-lettered a sign?  The last letters skinny!&#8211;ha ha that&#8217;s the &#8220;figuring it out at kitchen tables&#8221; .<br
/> I opened my mutual fund statement 2 hours ago, before this surfing, and I have $4000.00 less than same time last year.  So &#8220;banal&#8221; spoke to me, I understand that I am building something I will then &#8220;keep clean and work inside of&#8221;.<br
/> Please understand I am no understander of what poetry should be!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robin Reagler</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link> <dc:creator>Robin Reagler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-117</guid> <description>I think you&#039;re right that we are mostly agreeing.  Enjoying the dialogue!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right that we are mostly agreeing.  Enjoying the dialogue!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robin Reagler</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link> <dc:creator>Robin Reagler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:05:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-116</guid> <description>Hi Daniel, I responded to this on A Poem a Day.  I should have read your post FIRST, but at least you are getting my unadulterated opinion!  www.witsblog.org
Robin</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel, I responded to this on A Poem a Day.  I should have read your post FIRST, but at least you are getting my unadulterated opinion! <a
href="http://www.witsblog.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.witsblog.org</a><br
/> Robin</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: santitafarella</title><link>http://www.danielklotz.com/elizabeth-alexanders-inaugural-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link> <dc:creator>santitafarella</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:48:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://danielklotz.com/?p=360#comment-115</guid> <description>Daniel,I think that you make many good observations about Alexander&#039;s poem, and its weaknesses.I have not looked at it as text, but I was (personally) taken by it, and enjoyed it, and found that I could listen to it again at YouTube without pain.I recognize that she is a minor poet, and is not going to rock our socks off with an Eliot-like or Frost-like poem for the ages, but I thought it excelled the Warren prayer offered, and fit the occasion.I agree with you that Obama is a hard act to follow---and that Obama&#039;s speeches have poetic elements that are, in places, more poetic than the poet&#039;s.You compare Alexander&#039;s poem unfavorably to Maya Angelou&#039;s. I haven&#039;t gone back to look at Angelou&#039;s, but your observation may prompt me to do so.As for the &quot;green theme&quot; that you use for you blog, I wanted to use it but couldn&#039;t figure out how to put the &quot;about&quot; page in the side margin (like yours is).If it&#039;s not complicated, could you tell me how you did that?---Santi (my blog is Prometheus Unbound)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p><p>I think that you make many good observations about Alexander&#8217;s poem, and its weaknesses.</p><p>I have not looked at it as text, but I was (personally) taken by it, and enjoyed it, and found that I could listen to it again at YouTube without pain.</p><p>I recognize that she is a minor poet, and is not going to rock our socks off with an Eliot-like or Frost-like poem for the ages, but I thought it excelled the Warren prayer offered, and fit the occasion.</p><p>I agree with you that Obama is a hard act to follow&#8212;and that Obama&#8217;s speeches have poetic elements that are, in places, more poetic than the poet&#8217;s.</p><p>You compare Alexander&#8217;s poem unfavorably to Maya Angelou&#8217;s. I haven&#8217;t gone back to look at Angelou&#8217;s, but your observation may prompt me to do so.</p><p>As for the &#8220;green theme&#8221; that you use for you blog, I wanted to use it but couldn&#8217;t figure out how to put the &#8220;about&#8221; page in the side margin (like yours is).</p><p>If it&#8217;s not complicated, could you tell me how you did that?</p><p>&#8212;Santi (my blog is Prometheus Unbound)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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